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Forums - Modelling / Kits

The kits forum is for the discussion of model kits. Typically questions on availability or certain subjects and quality of existing kits are posted here. Short reviews are good here too.
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Messages  7784
 Subject:  Careful nowList thread.  
  
 Date:  Jan 25, 2006
 From:  Robert Lockie 
You're sounding like some sort of apologist for Dragon. It seems that we are not allowed to do anything but criticise kit manufacturers' business practices such as improving their product after the initial releases because to offer any non-critical comment that means you are in league with the evil capitalists who run them without any care for the ignorant and exploited consumer who finds himself with a kit that is (gasp) slightly wrong in a few correctable areas.

I agree with all you say - the thing we often forget is that most of the model-buying public does not spend the sort of time we do on examining our purchases and they do not even care if the turret is half an inch too wide (e.g. the old Tamiya Panther, still on the shelves). Given this, I suggest that we are very fortunate that Dragon actually bothers to improve its releases. Trumpeter did the same with its KVs (ther first ones had trackguards which were too wide) so I'm probably going to take flak for defending them too now. The impact we have on profits through some of us not buying a kit due to faults is minimal, but if enough people did not buy becasue the product was poor, it will either improve or the company will be outcompeted. Natural selection works in business too. It usually ends up for the better.
 
Thread Listing 
  DML Pzkw IV/E definitive fix list - Steve Campbell - Jan 22, 2006
. . . Re: Definitive fix list for DML Pkw IV/E - Paul A. Owen - Jan 22, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Definitive fix list for DML Pkw IV/E - Steve Campbell - Jan 22, 2006
. . . Re: DML Pzkw IV/E definitive fix list - Robert Lu - Jan 22, 2006
. . . . . . Re: DML Pzkw IV/E definitive fix list - Steve Campbell - Jan 22, 2006
. . . DML Pz.IV E mit Vorpanzer Improvement - Kazutaka YOKOTA - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . I'm with Mike :-) - Steve Campbell - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . Re: DML Pz.IV E mit Vorpanzer Improvement - R.C. Hill - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: DML Pz.IV E mit Vorpanzer Improvement - Steve Campbell - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: DML Pz.IV E mit Vorpanzer Improvement - R.C. Hill - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: DML Pz.IV E mit Vorpanzer Improvement - Steve Campbell - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Gepaeckkasten and Wrong Turret Rear Shape - Kazutaka YOKOTA - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . An additional item - Kazutaka YOKOTA - Jan 23, 2006
. . . Re: DML Pzkw IV/E definitive fix list - Mike - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . Re: DML Pzkw IV/E definitive fix list - Steve Campbell - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . Re: DML Pzkw IV/E definitive fix list - Ron - Jan 23, 2006
. . . Irrelevant. - Kevin Johnson - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . Irrelevant? - Steve Campbell - Jan 23, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Ceveat emptor - Robert Lockie - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Same with the Xbox 360 - David Nickels - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . It is sort of a moot point now... - David Nickels - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Harry Potter's cursed spell - Steve Campbell - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Get a grip - David Nickels - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . No point trolling or starting flame wars - Steve Campbell - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . There is some sarcasm and humor there buddy... - David Nickels - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . ..if anybody dislikes thier model that much... - Glenn Bartolotti - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: ..if anybody dislikes thier model that much... - Steve Campbell - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Are you suggesting that I am corrupt? - Robert Lockie - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Are you suggesting that I am corrupt? - Steve Campbell - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You probably would never even notice 99% - David Nickels - Jan 24, 2006
. . . Pz. IV E "Classic" Challenge - Paul A. Owen - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . NOT FAIR : ( - glenn Bartolotti - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: I'll send you mine - Paul A. Owen - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . I'm too old! - James Wechsler - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . OK PAUL! - Glenn Bartolotti - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . I'm in ! - David Nickels - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Pz. IV E "Classic" Challenge and the N. Africa Contest - R.C. Hill - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Pz. IV E "Classic" Challenge and the N. Africa Contest - Paul A. Owen - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . ...i love a Challenge! - Glenn Bartolotti - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . Re: New Challenge - Paul A. Owen - Apr 4, 2006
. . . Maybe Dragon is like Microsoft... - Kip Rudge - Jan 24, 2006
. . . . . . Careful now - Robert Lockie - Jan 25, 2006
. . . . . . . . . KVs - Kurt Laughlin - Jan 25, 2006
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