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| Subject: | Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? |  |
| Date: | Oct 27, 2006 |
| From: | John Martin | |
Rob
The controls for the winch were on the bulkhead near the hull wall behind the radio operator. I have no good photos but look on page 129 (right photo) of Culver and Feist (1998) Panther in Detail - there is a lever (moves forward or backward) on the far side of the bulkhead just below the tarp before you get to the sponson floor. There is a long rod that connects to the clutch band - see Waldemar Trojca No 4 (Pp. 110-111). The rod (folded backward in this photo) in the upper left photo on page 111 engages the winch. The forward and back lever is next to this but have no photos of that anywhere. Please see the cover story article in Tamiya Model Magazine (Jan 2005), page 11 for the clearest look at the set up. But note that the photo on page 129 noted above does not correspond to the model.
Unfortunately, the French Bergepanther G is broken down so that visitors can view the winch. The Waldemar Trojca No 4 has excellent views of the winch compartment but none of the operators end, i.e. the driving compartment.
For my Berge, I used the lever control piece for the winch (part No 13) from the Italeri sWS Panzer Werfer 42 (kit No 356 or alternatively 370) as the winch was not used on these models (only the sWS cargo verson used it). I used insect pins for the levers but used a small drop of super glue for the handle.
The engaging lever can actually be linked as the prototype using the VP Update set - you have to supply the wire. The actual had a slight dog leg bend.
When I get a little further along, I will send some more photos.
Thats the best I can do and hope this helps.
John |
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 | Bergepanther conversion kit? - Glenn Bartolotti - Oct 21, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? [IMG] - John Martin - Oct 22, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? [IMG] - John Martin - Oct 22, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? [IMG] - John Martin - Oct 22, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? [IMG] - John Martin - Oct 22, 2006 |
| . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - Glenn Bartolotti - Oct 22, 2006 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - John Martin - Oct 22, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - John F. Steinman - Oct 23, 2006 |
| . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - Andy Shaw - Oct 23, 2006 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - Lawrence Quah - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? [IMG] - John Martin - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? [IMG] - John Martin - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? [IMG] - John Martin - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? [IMG] - John Martin - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? [IMG] - John Martin - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? [IMG] - John Martin - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - Paul A. Owen - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - John Martin - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - Glenn Bartolotti - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . . . . . . . Bergepanther G Questions - James Duncan - Nov 1, 2006 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther G Questions - Rob Williams - Nov 11, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - John Steinman - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - Alex Dutt - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - John Martin - Oct 24, 2006 |
| . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - glenn Bartolotti - Oct 25, 2006 |
| . . . . . . John - Glenn Bartolotti - Oct 25, 2006 |
| . . . Bergepanther Reference Photos [IMG] - Steve Campbell - Oct 25, 2006 |
| . . . . . . ...is this the one that was rebuilt??? - Glenn Bartolotti - Oct 25, 2006 |
| . . . . . . . . . I really don't know Glenn, sorry :). nt - Steve Campbell - Oct 26, 2006 |
| . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - Paul A. Owen - Oct 26, 2006 |
| . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - Rob Williams - Oct 27, 2006 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - John Martin - Oct 27, 2006 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Bergepanther conversion kit? - Rob Williams - Oct 28, 2006 |
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