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The painting forum is for the discussion of techniques on the painting, decalling and weathering phases of AFV modelling and the tools and materials used.

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 Subject:  Re: Primer Red Hetzers? some infoList thread.  
  
 Date:  May 20, 2002
 From:  B. G. Eady 
OK.... here is a stretch, my Czech references to be released in print
shortly will have some information about use of Czech paint stocks at the
end of WWII... most probably only the Final production batch Feb. - May 1945
of last 145 Hetzers might have had paint that was middle green-grey in
color. Also a cream color was probably used as seen in many color drawings.
This cream color is an exact match to the elfenbein/ elfenweiss interior
color. Also, many will notice the green color used is close or similar to
the Russian greens commonly seen during WWII. This is because the Czech's
used this color prior to WWII and had available stocks as in the case of
vehicles shipped under trade agreement to the Slovaks were painted in these
colors.

Some reference is given to colors in the Jagdpanzer 38t Hetzer book
published by MBI... a decent reference that is inexpensive.

Most Hetzers should have standard German paint stocks colors... although
solid Red oxide primer base coated vehicles or solid green gray base coated
vehicles could well have been produced and then other colors added both at
the SKODA factory and in the field... the plant was air attacked frequently
and expedient measures were in place to produce and produce quickly.

I hope that this helps...
Nacht
"Neville Lord" wrote in message
news:3ce374cd@dev.routehero.com...
>
> "Yuchung Wang" wrote in message
> news:3ce33d18$1@dev.routehero.com...
> > Hi again,
> >
> > What about rumors that some Hetzers had a base coat of Panzer Grey? That
> is
> > how DML recommends for their Mid Production Hetzer!
>
> This is getting into the "grey" areas of Panzer legends (Bad pun). The
> references I would put most trust in all but say they weren't any grey
ones
> at all.
>
> As you have probably noted lot of DML kits released a few years ago are
> rather vague about unit markings and places, so that gives me the
impression
> they didn't spend too much time researching their kit's painting schemes,
> and probably got much of their info from the "standard" older books like
> PAnzer Colors, in fact you will find a lot of their kits markings in the
b/w
> photos of Last of the PAnzers.
>
> The research point is further reinforced by the fact all of their Hetzer
and
> Jagdtiger and Jagdpanzer IV kits variants have an uncanny resemblence to
> Hilary Doyles scale plans in two German language books (which is a good
> thing).
>
>
>
> >
> > BTW, how thick would a red primer layer be? I have seen many models of
> > vehicles with rust showing through the red primer.
>
> My guess is not overly thick. Skoda and BMM were both high quality
> manufacturing plants with large export bases prior to the war. Its normal
> for paint to show thru rust, incidentally red is a good color for hiding
> some rust.
>
> BTTW a PAnther A early in Italy sounds like a good choice.
>
> Cheers
> >
>
>
 
Thread Listing 
  Primer Red Hetzers? Need info. - Yuchung Wang - May 14, 2002
. . . Re: Primer Red Hetzers? some info - Neville Lord - May 14, 2002
. . . . . . Re: Primer Red Hetzers? some info - Yuchung Wang - May 15, 2002
. . . . . . . . . Re: Primer Red Hetzers? some info - Neville Lord - May 15, 2002
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Primer Red Hetzers? some info - Yuchung Wang - May 16, 2002
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Primer Red Hetzers? some info - Neville Lord - May 16, 2002
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Primer Red Hetzers? some info - B. G. Eady - May 20, 2002
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