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The painting forum is for the discussion of techniques on the painting, decalling and weathering phases of AFV modelling and the tools and materials used.

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 Subject:  Re: Need Colour/Technique For Bare Armoured SteelList thread.  
  
 Date:  Jun 22, 2004
 From:  Steve Eslinger 
A couple of things to keep in mind. First off, exposed steel as used in armor plating oxidizes quickly and loses much of its sheen. It takes on a dull, brownish tint fairly quickly (some hint of orange from rust while keeping a bit of a metallic look). So unless you are planning on showing a fresh gouge from an incoming round, you probably want to stay away from anything too shiny.
Second, when zimmerit chipped, it did so in layers. Probably one of the most common types of chipping was when it just lost the top coat of zimmerit. Zim was applied in two layers. Frequently, only the second coat would chip off, revealing the light cream/gray colored coat beneath exposed (zimmerit originally contained ochre pigment so as to more closely replicate dünkelgelb but this was dropped after it was decided the relatively scarce supply of pigment was better used elsewhere). If you examine a coated vehicle and you notice lighter colored patches showing through, that is what you are seeing. The pictures Ron Volsted used as a basis for the box art of Dragon's early Panther A are textbook examples of this (Squadron's Panther in Action).
In other chips, both layers may be removed and you see the red oxide primer. The primer had very good bonding properties with the steel, so it hung on quite well.
Finally, you will see what you are talking about, a chip all the way down to the bare metal. However, from the pictures I've examined, large areas of exposed metal seemed to be somewhat rare. Personally, I would probably look at replicating all three levels of chipping with the latter category being reserved for smaller areas of particularly high wear.
 
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  Need Colour/Technique For Bare Armoured Steel - dominic miele - Jun 19, 2004
. . . Re: Need Colour/Technique For Bare Armoured Steel - Jesse Spute - Jun 20, 2004
. . . . . . no red oxide - Dominic Miele - Jun 20, 2004
. . . Re: Need Colour/Technique For Bare Armoured Steel - Christophe Jacquemont - Jun 20, 2004
. . . Re: Need Colour/Technique For Bare Armoured Steel - Eran - Jun 21, 2004
. . . Re: Need Colour/Technique For Bare Armoured Steel - Steve Eslinger - Jun 22, 2004
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