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| Subject: | Re: German Dark Yellow scheme |  |
| Date: | Jul 10, 2004 |
| From: | Christopher C. Tew | |
The Chory-Kliment book on Wehrmacht camouflage is based on documents and actual paint samples. It is the best source I have found, though it is certainly not the last word on this subject - it tries to interpret some photos of Aberdeen vehicles that look like they were repainted after the war.
There were two distinct "dark yellow" colors, not counting the Afrika dark yellow RAL 8000 that ended up in Russia on 5. PD tanks in early 1943.
The first dark yellow was based on a temporary specification. This is the color that all the paint companies seem to have in mind, no matter what "official" number or name they give it - usually RAL 7028, which it isn't. Some batches of Tamiya have come really close, IMO. Most hobby paints give this dark yellow a green tint, even some "off" batches of Tamiya, but the Chory-Kliment book's sample does not have this. It is a dark yellow. This dark yellow was only used after mid 1943, so it would be especially applicable for Kursk vehicles through the winter whitewashes that followed.
The second dark yellow, used in 1944-1945, was actually a very light tan, the real RAL 7028. None of the hobby paints come anywhere close to this dark yellow. This is the color the old AFV-G2 magazine matched from extant paint samples and called "sand-tan primer." They used Floquil railroad paints, and though Floquil's solvent formula has changed for safety's sake, Earth-RR11, Mud-RR63, and White-M11 (7-1-1) still give a good match to the full-strength color (not scale effect) samples in the magazine and the Chory-Kliment book. Floquil's Polyscale railroad acrylics also can be used, but you might need to fiddle with the ratios a bit, as they are obviously not the same paints, and my experience has been that the acrylics have a lot more color variation than the regular paints.
I mixed one acrylic batch to a 1-7-1 ratio by mistake and found it to be a good "scale effect" 1943 dark yellow.
I don't know any more than what these sources state, but it makes sense to me, and the base paints are easily found - in the USA. |
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 | German Dark Yellow scheme - Damon Agretto - Jul 8, 2004 |
| . . . Re: German Dark Yellow scheme - Paul A. Owen - Jul 8, 2004 |
| . . . . . . Re: German Dark Yellow scheme - Damon Agretto - Jul 8, 2004 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: German Dark Yellow scheme - Paul A. Owen - Jul 8, 2004 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: German Dark Yellow scheme - Jay Laverty - Jul 10, 2004 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: German Dark Yellow scheme - Robert Lockie - Jul 10, 2004 |
| . . . Re: German Dark Yellow scheme - john memoli - Jul 8, 2004 |
| . . . . . . Re: German Dark Yellow scheme - Damon Agretto - Jul 8, 2004 |
| . . . I once saw a strange picture... - Jussi Vehosalmi - Jul 8, 2004 |
| . . . Re: German Dark Yellow scheme - Christopher C. Tew - Jul 10, 2004 |
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