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| Subject: | Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? |  |
| Date: | Feb 17, 2005 |
| From: | John Barnicoat | |
Hi Saul,
Sounds like an interesting test, but I don’t think it would ultimately address the issue of “scale”. It’s not so much just the color of the object, but what the object actually is. A random big object and a random small object will both look to be the same color in this test I believe. But when the brain recognizes what that small object – or more precisely, the miniature of a real object—actually is, then it tries to see it the same way it does if that object was the real, full-sized object.
Atmospheric effects play a big role in how the eye sees an object. Any experienced photographer who uses different lens is familiar with how the size and appearance of an object can be changed by how it is viewed. The best example of this is using a long lens to view a distant object, in which the distance between the camera and the object becomes “compressed” when viewed through the camera’s eyepiece. The air and atmospheric affects—including dust, fog, haze, etc-- also become greatly compressed, and can have a great affect on how the object looks. Generally, they “soften” how the object appears. When a miniature is viewed close-up, this affect is lost, and so the object can appear unnatural. This is one thing that makes a model look like a model, and not like the real thing. “Scale affects” can be added to the model to try to mimic some of these things that are lost when viewing a miniature. Lightening the color of a model is one way of “softening” the color presented to your eye, and therefore helping your brain to think it is maybe a little more life-like, and a little less like a miniature.
I have spoken to Tom several times about this topic too. He flatly denies it exists, but he’ll also tell you he’s not a modeler, and we can do whatever we like if it makes us feel good. :)
John |
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 | Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - Saul Garcia - Feb 17, 2005 |
| . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - John Barnicoat - Feb 17, 2005 |
| . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - Steve Campbell - Feb 17, 2005 |
| . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - Paul A. Owen - Feb 18, 2005 |
| . . . . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - Ardell Bourgeois - Feb 18, 2005 |
| . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - David Byrden - Feb 19, 2005 |
| . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - Steve Dowty - Feb 19, 2005 |
| . . . Re: Paging Professor Herbert - Paul A. Owen - Feb 19, 2005 |
| . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - Al Crawford - Feb 19, 2005 |
| . . . . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - John Prigent - Feb 20, 2005 |
| . . . . . . . . . Great Point John! - Saul Garcia - Feb 20, 2005 |
| . . . . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - David Byrden - Feb 22, 2005 |
| . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? (Longish) - Thomas Naser - Feb 21, 2005 |
| . . . Re: Does scale effect really exist for WWII AFVs? - Rick Bennett - Feb 22, 2005 |
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