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| Subject: | Summary to date |  |
| Date: | Dec 1, 2007 |
| From: | Roy Chow | |
Okay everyone: Thnx for your comments and additions to my original list. I've compiled the additional comments (I posted this on several AFV modelling websites and each had contribuitions) to this updated list:
1) US WW2 era tail lights having four red lenses. Only the top oval lens was red -- the lower left and both right lenses were black in appearance. Current NATO style lamps are different.
2) German WW2 fire extinguishers being red: research seems to indicate that they were most certainly same color as tank exterior. Highly likely that internal ones were red, however.
3) hatch interiors in white/ivory color: while there is photographic evidence that some early war tanks had this on the rare occasion, it seems that half the modellers insist on doing this to their tanks. Rule of thumb should be hatch undersides should match exterior color. This point is debated but like I said, it's not a hard & fast rule.
4) Sherman suspensions rubber tires: while some museum pieces paint the return rollers and idler wheels of VVS Shermans and variants, modellers should know that these in fact were all steel. Only the HVSS had rubber on the return roller wheels and idlers.
4b) In addition, US Light tanks (M3, M5) and the M8 HMC had metal return rollers
5) German WW2 wire cutters: the handles were made of seem to be made of Tuffnol, a composite material similar to Bakelite. Definitely not wood. They appear black or dark brown -- not light wood-colored.
6) there seems to be a fad of red-oxide "replacement" barrels on WW2 German subjects. Barrels were finished in a dark grey heat-resistant lacquer. Factories could then apply a base coat atop that. Dk grey, not red oxide for "bare" barrels.
7) confusion about red/white aiming stakes. These were used by artillery pieces that had indirect firing missions (read NOT Pak 43/41). Often they are confused with cleaning rods. A bizarre contradiction are red/white rods pictured on one of the Jagdtiger pilot models.
8) Weld seams are made of non-ferrous alloys -- and not subject to easy rusting
9) Kurt Laughlin pointed out that WW2 era synthetic rubbers have been painted dk grey/charcoal. However, they had additives to prevent static buildup and would have appeared more black and dk brown -- almost equal to natural rubber.
10) German WW2 camo cloth: note that often figure painters fail to account that the patterns differed when pieces were sewn together. One can readily see zeltbahns where one pattern is perpedicular to the one next to it.
11) German WW2 antenna: they were metal rods, not whip antenna. Don't bend em!
12) German WW2 tail lights: the notek blackout light: four lens were green not red. In 1/35, you should paint them barely green, mostly black in appearance. The round ones had an amber lens atop a red lens.
Hope this helps! |
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 | Commonly mis-painted items on models - Roy Chow - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . Re: List of commonly mis-painted items on models - Glenn Bartolotti - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: List of commonly mis-painted items on models - Roy Chow - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Bakelit [IMG] - Frank Forster - Nov 29, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: List of commonly mis-painted items on models - Cesar Oliva Atienza - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . Re: List of commonly mis-painted items on models - John Steinman - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . . . . A good one to add: Lt tank retn rollers steel too - Roy Chow - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: A good one to add: Lt tank retn rollers steel too - John Steinman - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . Red-brown "wood" tool handles - Paul A. Owen - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: Red-brown "wood" tool handles - Jim Johnson - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: Red-brown "wood" tool handles - Brian Bocchino - Nov 29, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Bakelit vs. Tuffnell - Wow - Ken Dixon - Nov 29, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Bakelit vs. Tuffnell - Wow - Paul A. Owen - Nov 29, 2007 |
| . . . T-34 lights - Cesar Oliva Atienza - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: T-34 lights - Adam Weber - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . Armor welds, antennas, and synthetic tires - Kurt Laughlin - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . Re: Commonly mis-painted items on models - Greg Banks - Nov 28, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: Commonly mis-painted items on models - Sean Langley - Nov 29, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Commonly mis-painted items on models - Arun Bauer - Dec 1, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Jagdtiger is a severe anamoly - Roy Chow - Dec 1, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Jagdtiger is a severe anamoly - Arun Bauer - Dec 2, 2007 |
| . . . Re: Commonly mis-painted items on models - Gary Cooper - Nov 29, 2007 |
| . . . . . . No thanks needed: misuse of brain cells - Roy Chow - Nov 29, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: No thanks needed: misuse of brain cells - Robert Garelli - Nov 29, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Actually I'm mistaken about Bakelite handles!!! - Roy Chow - Nov 29, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I think you are right Roy - Kurt Laughlin - Nov 30, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . never take them out of the car - Andrew Herbert - Nov 29, 2007 |
| . . . Summary to date - Roy Chow - Dec 1, 2007 |
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