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 Subject:  Re: Point takenList thread.  
  
 Date:  Aug 2, 2006
 From:  Tim Streeter 
A tasteful way to show a baby murdered?

A small crowd of people in front of a bombed out house (you name the country and the war). They are digging through the debris. One man hold's up a small shoe. A kneeling woman looks up, sobbing. She is holding a small doll.

Call it "Death of the Innocents."

Too much? Pointless? More pointless than the 1,732,899th diorama of a tank crew sitting around smoking some cigarettes and looking at a map, of which most fellow modelers are aware?

There is another great diorama, by Keith Forsythe I think, of civilians being herded to boxcars of a train by German soldiers. Not a dead body in sight---other than the ones you might see in your mind.

The only other Holocaust diorama I recall seeing actually appeared in the old Military Modeling magazine, showing the liberation of a death camp by US soldiers.

I found these two dioramas just as moving as Park's, even though I am intimately aware of these tragedies.

I'm also moved when I look at Michaelangelo's "Pieta." What is a sculpture other than an older and more artistically respected form of modeling? Here you have the three-dimensional rendering of the body of an executed holy man in the arms of his grieving mother. Pointless? Tasteless?

Taste certainly is a personal thing. Many see modeling as "just a hobby." Some see it as a business and an opportunity to make money. And a few see it as an art form that can transcend its toy store image and move people to think and---more importantly, in my opinion---to feel.

I respect the hobbyists (particularly those who can politely debate a "controversial" topic such as this one). I'm grateful for the businessmen who feed my habit. I admire the artists who breathe life into their models or dioramas, even when the subject might be death.
 
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  Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Paul A. Owen - Jul 31, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Kevin A. Moore - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . in the Gallery- in the gutter - Christopher benjamin - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: in the Gallery- in the gutter - Rick Snaauw - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: in the Gallery- in the gutter-Rick - Mike Bedard - Jul 31, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - mike Tittel - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Paul A. Owen - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Mike Tittel - Jul 31, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Christopher R. Evans - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Debatable Issue - Mike Tittel - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Debatable Issue - michael - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Debatable Issue - Mike Tittel - Jul 31, 2006
. . . Very appropriate - michael - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Very appropriate - well said - Danny Egan - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Brian Bocchino - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - david budd - Jul 31, 2006
. . . How the East views the Holocaust? - Dominic Miele - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Re: How the East views the Holocaust? - Roderick Lenz - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: How the East views the Holocaust? - david budd - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Re: How the East views the Holocaust? - Phil Choi - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Asian Holocaust - Dominic Miele - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Right and Wrong... - Andrew Herbert - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gore and modelling - Dominic Miele - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Gore and modelling - Alex Hill - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Gore and modelling - Andrew Herbert - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Verlinden Shoe-shine Dio - Dominic Miele - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Verlinden Shoe-shine Dio - Andrew Herbert - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Here's the direct link to the Verlinden thing - Andrew Herbert - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . That is dumb - Dominic Miele - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: That is dumb - Brian Bocchino - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . What is the Artist's Intention? - Tim Streeter - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point taken - Dominic Miele - Aug 2, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Point taken - Tim Streeter - Aug 2, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Point taken - Dominic Miele - Aug 4, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Gore and modelling-Dominic - Mike Bedard - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . How do you know they're Jews? - Kevin Johnson - Aug 9, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Did you even look at the dio closely? - R.C. Hill - Aug 9, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Isn't that strange. - Kevin Johnson - Aug 14, 2006
. . . ...what will be will be... - Glenn Bartolotti - Jul 31, 2006
. . . Healthy - Mike Tittel - Jul 31, 2006
. . . For Comparison [IMG] - Tim Streeter - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Re: For Comparison - david budd - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Re: For Comparison - Mike Tittel - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Apples and Oranges - Dominic Miele - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery [IMG] - Tim Streeter - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Scott Taylor - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery-Tim - Mike Bedard - Jul 31, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Andrew Herbert - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Picasso's "Guernica" - Paul A. Owen - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Picasso's "Guernica" - Andrew Herbert - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - rajendra - Jul 31, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Jerry Plettenberg - Jul 31, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Dave Clark - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Roy Chow - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Dave Clark - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Same discussion has been heard before - Jari Lievonen - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - John Murcutt - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - rob galassi - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - jan slany - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Alexandre - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Kevin Moore - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Gary Cooper - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Almost every Nation has Blood on their Fingers! - Frank Forster - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Almost every Nation has Blood on their Fingers! - Sean Lynch - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Almost every Nation has Blood on their Fingers! - Frank Forster - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Almost every Nation has Blood on their Fingers! - Alex Hill - Aug 1, 2006
. . . I'm Curious.... - Tim Streeter - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Too right... - Andrew Herbert - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Re: I'm Curious.... - Mike Tittel - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Re: I'm Curious.... - Alex Hill - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Shawn Godwin - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Mark Rethoret - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Reaching for an idea.... - Kip Rudge - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast between threads - Brian Bocchino - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast between threads - Andrew Herbert - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast between threads - Alex Borsboom - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast between threads - Andrew Herbert - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . If it was a Rape scene what would be the reaction? - Michael Wawrow - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: If it was a Rape scene what would be the reaction? - Alex Hill - Aug 1, 2006
. . . Hypocrisy! - Steve - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Hypocrisy! - R.C. Hill - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Hypocrisy! - Steve - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . A rose by any other ................. - Steve Campbell - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Hi Steve - Paul A. Owen - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Hi Steve - Steve - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Hi Steve - Paul A. Owen - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Look at the address!! - Andrew Herbert - Aug 2, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Hypocrisy! - R.C. Hill - Aug 2, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Hypocrisy! - Brian Bocchino - Aug 2, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Hypocrisy! - Steve - Aug 2, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Hypocrisy! - Brian Bocchino - Aug 2, 2006
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Hypocrisy! - Frank Forster - Aug 2, 2006
. . . Re: Oh boy... - Paul A. Owen - Aug 1, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Oh boy... - Andrew Herbert - Aug 2, 2006
. . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Charles Reading - Aug 10, 2006
. . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Mark Austen - Aug 15, 2006
. . . . . . . . . Re: Interesting contrast .. in the Gallery - Philippe - Aug 15, 2006
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