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| Subject: | Why TL is the best place for this kind of discussion |  |
| Date: | Sep 23, 2007 |
| From: | Michael Powers | |
All...
I have been reading all the comments on this "hobby" and I would like to add my two cents. At the risk of being too tangential let me relate two very different experiences that I had here at TL. One has to do with criticism of some fairly contradictory and emotional observations that I made about some box art a while back and the other has to do with a glaring mistake I made on a Stormerr HVM Starstreak. It turns out that both of these experiences were more beneficial to my work in our "hobby" than I could ever have imagined. In response to my editorial comments, people took positions and fired some hard criticism at my observations. My impulse was to feel demeaned and offended. But, when I looked back over the various responses I realized that they were, for the most part, well reasoned and insightful. The members of TL took there criticisms to heart and delivered them with succinct honesty... I had to reconsider some of the points of my own position,, see the weaknesses in my argument and admit some error in my own behavior.
This brings me to the Stormer... I was really proud of that piece (and still am) I got some really nice "great jobs" Then about the 6th or 7th response I saw the dreaded "Great job, But..." oh boy, here was the "bolt counter" I read the message-"this is really nice, do you know you have the tracks on the wrong way round" I laughed out loud. Here I was Mr Proud-gonna-win-a-gold-medal-at AMPS and I had put the tracks on backwards!. I had two weeks to fix things, did so and took home a Silver (A littlel Humble Pie was good for the soul)
Soooo... here is this modeling community that sometimes teaches life lessons. And here is this modeling community that sometimes tells you that you have the tracks on backwards. The level of skill and camaraderie here is what seems to make it work so well. The guys with the big brains and level heads can help to steer the hotheads with the smaller hat sizes. Members who feel that they have wandered into, or caused a flame war can be reassured that they are not alone and that there is no reason to be disenchanted with the TL community...having been a marginal (but reformed) flamer once in my life I have come to respect this community.
The best part is , is that it can all be discussed, and is! The guy who tears into the other guy, rationally or irrationally will incur the keen and for the most part, well-thought out and sharply delivered criticism from members who see things differently. (You really can learn to make better models from the bolt counters too!)
Sometimes small-minded crazy people get over themselves and they certainly are not going to get away with too much for too long here in this community.
Amen
Mike |
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 | It is just a hobby! - David Golinsky - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . not for me - Michael Bedard - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . more than a hobby - Frank Forster - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: more than a hobby - David Golinsky - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . With my pathetic excuse for a life.... - Kip Rudge - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: With my pathetic excuse for a life.... - David Golinsky - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: With my pathetic excuse for a life.... - Dave Williams - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: With my pathetic excuse for a life.... - Paul Roberts - Sep 22, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: more than a hobby - Julian - Oct 4, 2007 |
| . . . Thanks David, my thoughts exactly - Paul A. Owen - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . Par for the course - rob galassi - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: Par for the course - Paul A. Owen - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Par for the course - John Naja - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - Dan Austen - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - My two cents - Jeff - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - My two cents - Mike - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - My two cents - Kevin Johnson - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - My two cents - Paul A. Owen - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - My two cents - Kevin Johnson - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - My two cents - Steve Reid - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Narcissism of small differences - Paul A. Owen - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Perfect example... - Steve Reid - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Perfect example... - Paul A. Owen - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Worked on me - Steve Reid - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . FYI - Michael Bedard - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Thanks Mike - Steve Reid - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . So we all agree..... - David Golinsky - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: So we all agree..... - Paul Cunningham - Sep 20, 2007 |
| . . . David, take it from me....... - Alan Leong - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - Steve Reid - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - Mike - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . No need to critisize..... - Mark Austen - Sep 21, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: No need to critisize..... - Chris Oldfield - Sep 22, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4p from Dave if you please.... - Dave Williams - Sep 22, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . So what is a critique, then? This goes on a while... - Andrew Herbert - Sep 22, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . True Andrew, but.... - Mark Austen - Sep 22, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Many Things to Everyone - Tim Streeter - Sep 23, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Topic promoted - Paul A. Owen - Sep 23, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Topic promoted - Andrew Herbert - Sep 23, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Topic promoted - Mark Austen - Sep 23, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Topic promoted - Andrew Herbert - Sep 24, 2007 |
| . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - David Golinsky - Sep 22, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: It is just a hobby! - Robert Cline - Sep 22, 2007 |
| . . . "Hobby" has nothing to do with it - Kurt Laughlin - Sep 23, 2007 |
| . . . Why TL is the best place for this kind of discussion - Michael Powers - Sep 23, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: Why TL is the best place for this kind of discussion - Andrew Herbert - Sep 24, 2007 |
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