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| Subject: | Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? |  |
| Date: | Sep 25, 2003 |
| From: | Joerg Bauerkaemper | |
Hi Andrew,
I've seen a lot of rust in my life - years ago I used to drive Alfa Romeos :-(. The bright orange rust appears only on completely unprotected steel, like disc brakes. If you just touch it, it's away.
A burned out, old muffler (I KNOW them) looks brownish grey, with dark redbrown spots on it. BUT - a tank at war never is old.
If the crew was lucky, they weren't blown up for weeks, perhaps some months. After a quite short time the tank at least broke down and was maintainanced. And hardened tank steel nearly doesn't rust! You may have spots of bare metal, where the paint is worn off on often used part, like wheels on guns, handles or the zones where you climb the tank, but no rust. Rust only appears, if the paint is gone and the part isn't used for a long time.
So I don't understand these overall rusted and damaged tanks at all.
Some examples: A Panther G in Normandy - the G-series started in march 44, these vehicles were brandnew! Or Jagttigers at Ardennes (series started in september 44). And older tanks, which were still grey, were newly painted at last in 1943, when the wehrmacht introduced the yellow standard camouflage.
All armys of the world, and perhaps the german in special, maintain their vehicles very well. They wash it, grease it AND PAINT IT. If soldiers don't fight, they maintain their vehicles. And most of the time they do not fight! (Tankers of the Wehrmacht got the tank combat badge 1st class after 3(!) assaults, the highest class was for 100 assaults, but these were awarded just a very few times (the war lasted nearly 2000 days)
I was a tank commander in the Bundeswehr in the 80s, and I have never seen a such rusted or worn out vehicle. Even the targets-tanks looked better. If there was rust, we painted it over. And some of the vehicles, especially the trucks, were about 20 years old.
If you see pictures of tanks digged out of the russian taiga after 60 years, they look rusted. But if they would rust in a way many modellers perform on tanks in service for some months, they wouldn't be there anymore at all. |
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 | Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Andrew Johnson - Sep 24, 2003 |
| . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Paul A. Owen - Sep 23, 2003 |
| . . . . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Hartmut von Holdt - Sep 24, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Andrew Johnson - Sep 24, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Joerg Bauerkaemper - Sep 25, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Chris - Sep 25, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Andrew Herbert - Sep 25, 2003 |
| . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Hartmut von Holdt - Sep 24, 2003 |
| . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - John Steinman - Sep 24, 2003 |
| . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Joerg Bauerkaemper - Sep 25, 2003 |
| . . . . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Hartmut von Holdt - Sep 25, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Should exhaust pipes always be orange? - Simon Barnes - Oct 2, 2003 |
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