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| Subject: | Re: "Enigma" ? |  |
| Date: | Jan 6, 2003 |
| From: | Artur Zinatullin | |
> I do not believe this at all.
> If this were true, parts made at different factories - or plates
> cut in different rooms of the same factory - would not fit together.
> Suspensions would not work because torsion bars would not be able to reach their mounts.
> Driveshafts would not fit between transmissions and final drives.
> Turrets would drop through their races.
Well, what can I say...
There are more critical and less critical dimensions in every detail things are assembled.
For example, if the turret ring diameter is critical, turret height is quite free to vary.
What is critical, and what is not, and how to avoid does'not'fit problems, is an art of constructor and technologist.
> Cutting and fitting is the most time-consuming way of making things there is.
> It also requires the most skillful operators because a job done improperly simply won't work.
And now imagine, at what conditions tanks were made at wartime.
Tank plants were evacueted and rebuilt on new places.
Plant workers are mostly former farmers.
Number of experienced workers are in tranches at front.
Etc, etc...
And don't forget, that major industrialisation of totally agricultural Russia was started just in 1920s. So, industrial production
culture is just forming.
> 25mm simply does not make any sense.
> How would it be justified in the environment of life or death
> production to spend an additional hour putting in 10 more kilos of weld metal?
Decreasing a cut and assembly persition from 2mm (barely possible in that conditions) to 25mm is a great save of time and effort
too.
> I know from my research that such problems were viewed very critically in the American system.
Oh, please. Don't compare american and soviet system.
In american car plant, when whindshield doesn't fit in car body, hull is thrown away and workers who assembled it are fired.
Soviet workers just make hull straight with 8 kg hammers.
That's not a joke at all.
BTW, it took 40-50 kg of soldering lead to correct assembling err on GAZ M20 Pobeda hull in 1950s.
> Do you think that a plant manager under Stalin or Hitler would be more willing to take the risk?
If plant manager fails to make a number of tanks planned...
I have lived in USSR for about 15 years.
Soviet industry production was crude. It really was.
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