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| Subject: | Re: Death of the Tank-Gun + question. ** Long Post. |  |
| Date: | May 7, 2003 |
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"Yuchung M. Wang" wrote in
news:3eb85e44@news.track-link.net:
> I guess in modern warfare, missiles are the new tank killers. Didn't
> analysts prophesize the end of gun-tanks to tank-killer missiles after
> the 1967 war? True gun battles between tanks (on the scale of Kursk)
> are becoming passe. In the recent Gulf War, we rarely read about M1A1
> tank guns being used on tanks. Yes, there were isolated incidents. But
> M1's were mostly used as a "Sturmgeschutz" against Iraqi strongpoints
> and fanatics.
Incorrect grasshopper. Look at DS 1. Battle of 73 Easting and Battle of
Medina Ridge. Later battle at Rammallah oil fields. Classic tank vs tank
engagements. 73 Easting is very well described in Tom Clancy's Armrd Cav
book.
73 Easting and Medina Ridge were considered melees. US armored units overan
two of the Armored Republican Guard Divisons. They were withdrawing to the
north and jumped in one case while lagered in and in another while in full
retreat were intercepted. Yes the Iraqis lost but it was no cakewalk.
The Israelis fought with Centruion against all sorts of modern (at the
time) Soviet armor in Syrian hands. I can't remember if it was '67 or '73
(books packed for move) but the Israelis sat in fortified hull down
positions and sniped T-62 at long range and then engaged in what was
described as akin to wild west "quickdraw" shootouts on the rocky plain
below Golan.
Misslles are useful, but if you don't own the air you aerial platforms are
degraded and if you make good tactical use of combined arms your infantry
will keep the other guys infantry away from your tanks and let your tanks
engage thier tanks and then exploit thier mobility.
Abrams/Challenger/Leopard/Merkava rule the roost and none use missiles.
There is a reason for that.
Frank
It would be more correct to say there is much less opportunity for large
tank battles as fewer nations deploy large fleets of tanks. |
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 | 17pdr vs. T-55? - Yuchung M. Wang - May 6, 2003 |
| . . . Re: 17pdr vs. T-55? - Saul Garcia - May 5, 2003 |
| . . . . . . Re: 17pdr vs. T-55? - Yuchung M. Wang - May 7, 2003 |
| . . . Re: 17pdr vs. T-55? - Matthias Jaeger - May 6, 2003 |
| . . . . . . Re: 17pdr vs. T-55? - Yuchung M. Wang - May 7, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . Old fashioned steel armor - David Nickels - May 7, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Death of the Tank-Gun + question. ** Long Post. - Yuchung M. Wang - May 7, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Death of the Tank-Gun + question. ** Long Post. - - May 7, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Death of the Tank-Gun + question. ** Long Post. - Andy Ross - May 7, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Old fashioned steel armor - Yuchung M. Wang - May 7, 2003 |
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