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 Subject:  Re: T-34 mod. 41 VS. Panther Ausf. D at LenningradList thread.  
  
 Date:  Feb 7, 2007
 From:  Mikko Rautiainen 
I still find it unlikely but, bearing in mind what you mentioned, not impossible. I don't know the story in Jentz's book. Unfortunately the book is incredibly expensive in Finland (and rare too).

Why I think it's not likely the Panthers faced older T-34s?

Firstly, when 11. SS-PzGrenDiv 'Nordland' was transferred to the Army Group Nord from Balkans in December 1943 its Panzer regiment (Hermann von Salza) came a little later and without tanks.
Secondly, it's true that later in 1944 the regiment was equipped with Panther Ds but I remember the amount being something like 45+ in poor shape, as mentioned. Some sources say they were ex-Leibstandarte but I found no confirmation to this. I'm sorry I couldn't find the exact date when the regiment was actually reported ready for action either.

In this regard I believe T-34s the division faced were mostly newer than mod. 41s. Impossible it's not, though.

Regards,
Mikko
 
Thread Listing 
  T-34 mod. 41 VS. Panther Ausf. D at Lenningrad - Cody Swisher - Feb 4, 2007
. . . Re: T-34 mod. 41 VS. Panther Ausf. D at Lenningrad - Dwayne Williams - Feb 4, 2007
. . . . . . Re: T-34 mod. 41 VS. Panther Ausf. D at Lenningrad - cody swisher - Feb 5, 2007
. . . Re: T-34 mod. 41 VS. Panther Ausf. D at Lenningrad - Roy Chow - Feb 4, 2007
. . . Re: T-34 mod. 41 VS. Panther Ausf. D at Lenningrad - Roger Nilsson - Feb 5, 2007
. . . Re: T-34 mod. 41 VS. Panther Ausf. D at Lenningrad - Mikko Rautiainen - Feb 5, 2007
. . . . . . Re: T-34 mod. 41 VS. Panther Ausf. D at Lenningrad - Robert Anderson - Feb 6, 2007
. . . . . . . . . Re: T-34 mod. 41 VS. Panther Ausf. D at Lenningrad - Bruno COLLIN - Feb 7, 2007
. . . . . . . . . Re: T-34 mod. 41 VS. Panther Ausf. D at Lenningrad - Mikko Rautiainen - Feb 7, 2007
. . . . . . . . . . . . Correction: NOT a REGIMENT but ABTEILUNG - Mikko Rautiainen - Feb 7, 2007
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