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| Subject: | Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? |  |
| Date: | Jan 26, 2003 |
| From: | Kim Voss | |
Hi Steve,
There are 2 different J-R 85 mm barrels for T34/85's. there is the Zis-S-53
which was used on the T34/85 model 1944 and the T44. The other one was the
D5T which ws considerably shorter and used on the SU85, T34/85 model 1943, KV
85 and the JS I. Not having a ruler close at hand there is approximately
1/4" to 3/8" difference in length. This could be part of the confusion.
Kim Voss
Steve Frost wrote:
> Steve Frost wrote:
> > Steve Frost wrote:
> >
> >> I compared the Jordi Rubio Zis-s-53 85mm barrel to the measurements in
> >> "Russian Tanks and Armored Vehicles, 1917-1945" by Wolfgang Fleischer.
> >> The listed measurements on page 167 have the barrel at 4641 mm. The
> >> measurements don't say how much of that composes the breech, the
> >> rifling, etc.
> >>
> >> I scaled the Jordi Rubio barrel up to 1/1 and discovered that it's ~
> >> 1330 mm off. So, does anyone have any "definitive" measurements of
> >> this gun, or can at least provide me with the measurements that made
> >> up the breech are, etc.?
> >>
> >
> > Okay, adding to my confusion about this particular gun's length is the
> > information given given in the Osprey New Vanguard Number 20, T-34-85.
> > Steve Zaloga's 1/76 drawings of the T-34-85 Model 1944 on page 9 have
> > the gun scaling out to 2910.8 mm from mantlet to barrel end. The other
> > 1/76 drawings in the book scale out to this length as well, except for
> > the T-34-85 Model 1945 drawing on page 16, which scales the barrel of
> > the Zis-S-53 out to 2986.8 mm from mantlet to barrel end, e.g. a scale
> > mm off of the other drawings in the same book. That could be my clumsy
> > measuring though, ruler based vice the caliper treatment, so for all
> > intents and purposes, those drawings are consistent.
> >
>
> Well, I shouldn't do this kinda thing at midnight (or at least not type
> it up). It's not a scale mm off, there was a mm difference from when I
> placed the ruler on the various drawings. I'm not an engineer nor do I
> play one on t.v., so I dorked up the terminology...but I hope everyone
> realized that...
>
> Steve |
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 | Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Steve Frost - Jan 22, 2003 |
| . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Steve Frost - Jan 24, 2003 |
| . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Steve Frost - Jan 24, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Kim Voss - Jan 26, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Steve Frost - Jan 26, 2003 |
| . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Kurt Laughlin - Jan 26, 2003 |
| . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Steve Frost - Jan 26, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Kurt Laughlin - Jan 26, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Saul Garcia - Jan 27, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Kim Voss - Jan 27, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Kurt Laughlin - Jan 27, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Steve Frost - Jan 27, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Kurt Laughlin - Jan 28, 2003 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Measurements for Zis-s-53??? - Steve Frost - Feb 1, 2003 |
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