Advertisement
    Home        Articles        Reviews        Gallery        Contests        Forums     Search Login
Forums
 Introduction
 Posting guidelines
 Forum key
New Messages
Forum List
 News Forums
   GeneralOct 11 
   IndustryOct 10 
   Shows & ClubsOct 9 
 Site Forums
   ArticlesMay 16
   Build LogsOct 11
   ReviewsSep 22
   GalleryOct 11
   ContestsOct 6
 Modelling Forums
   KitsOct 9 
   ConstructionOct 11 
   PaintingOct 10 
   FiguresOct 10 
   DioramasAug 29 
   1-48th ScaleOct 1 
   Small ScaleSep 23 
 Research Forums
   WW2Oct 11 
   Post WW2Oct 10 
   Pre WW2Sep 6 
 Classifieds Ads
   Buy & SellOct 11 
   CommercialOct 10 
 

Forums - Research / WW2

This WW2 forum is intended for asking and discussing reference or historical related issues pertaining to WW2 (1939-1945) subjects.

Topics  3356
Messages  14974
 Subject:  Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheelsList thread.  
  
 Date:  Jun 7, 2003
 From:  Mike Canaday 
> That's possible, but I don't know how developed spinning was in 1943. If
> the wheel was stiff enough to keep from popping through when loaded
axially
> (like a Belleville washer/spring) it wouldn't need ribs. Pressure vessel
> heads are stamped/forged, and they don't have ribs either.

True, but a pressure vessel isn't usually loaded in the same way a wheel is.
However, you point is taken, a stamping could be designed that would work
without the spokes.

> I don't they changed it so much as opened the design up to other methods
and
> manufacturers.

That's why I thought of spin forming, which would require a new design
driven by the manufacturing method. You could not possibly spin the spoked
design.

> They appear to be - well, press-fit, actually. If not, they'd need a
> different tire assembly.

The more I look at the concave wheel, the more I think it is a completely
different design from all of the others. The concave wheels are assembled
in a fashion similar to the spoked stamped and the convex wheels. The
concave design doesn't have the second rim that the welded, stamped, and
convex have.

The spoked stamped design has two rims, one that the vertical flange is
riveted to, and another press fit onto the inner wheel to which the rubber
tire is vulcanized.

> The concave wheels - which I think use similarly shaped wheel halves - are
> welded at the circumferential joint to a backing ring.

All of the concave wheels I have seen are the same on both sides. I have
photographed both sides wen ever possible. However, I can't see the weld
joint you speak of. I don't think they really needed it. If the two halves
were pressed into the tire with a suitable spacer for the bearing, the
bearing caps would hold the assembly together axially in expansion and the
spacer or wheel inside flanges could prevent inward lateral movement. The
press fit might be enough to prevent the tire from slipping, if not some
sort of internal lug would stop that.

Mike Canaday
 
Thread Listing 
  Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Kurt Laughlin - Jun 1, 2003
. . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - mike foncannon - Jun 3, 2003
. . . . . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Kurt Laughlin - Jun 4, 2003
. . . . . . . . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Mike Canaday - Jun 7, 2003
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Kurt Laughlin - Jun 7, 2003
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Mike Canaday - Jun 7, 2003
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Kurt Laughlin - Jun 7, 2003
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Paul Roberts - Jun 9, 2003
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Kurt Laughlin - Jun 9, 2003
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Mike Canaday - Jun 10, 2003
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Kurt Laughlin - Jun 10, 2003
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Sherman VVSS convex wheels - Mike Canaday - Jun 10, 2003
    Home        Articles        Reviews        Gallery        Contests        Forums     Contact Track-Link