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 Subject:  Re: Question regarding British AT gun ammunition... 17 pdr???List thread.  
  
 Date:  Jun 17, 2003
 From:  Andy Ross 
The 120mm gun in Chieftain and Challenger uses a bagged charge similar to artillery.

This is to give increased flexibility, safety and ease of handling.

First off a Sabot round uses a bigger charge than smoke or HESH, by using a smaller bagged charge two HESH charges can be stored in the space of one SABOT charge. As the two components are relatively small compared to a fixed ammunition they can be stored in smaller spaces giving an increased ammunition load.

Charges are stored in water jacketed bins, a splinter penetrating a charge is followed by water and no fire results and if it does it just burns rather than exploding giving the crew time to get out. with a brass cartridge a penetrating splinter causes a charge to explode rather than burn, also water jackets can't be used to extinguish fires. After firing a brass cartridge it is ejected back into the turret bringing with it smoke and fumes, there is also the problem of disposing of empty cases. Bagged charge is consumed and fumes ejected out of the barrel. At 120mm calibre the size and weight of a round starts to get towards the limits of of handling in a turret by one man.

At first glance loading a seperate charge and shell would seem to be slower than loading a fixed ammunition but in practice with a well drilled crew there is no loss of speed.

Cap'n Swoop.
 
Thread Listing 
  Question regarding British AT gun ammunition... 17 pdr??? - Yuchung M. Wang - Jun 14, 2003
. . . Re: Question regarding British AT gun ammunition... 17 pdr??? - Paul Roberts - Jun 14, 2003
. . . . . . Thanks! n/t - Yc. Wang - Jun 15, 2003
. . . . . . Re: Question regarding British AT gun ammunition... 17 pdr??? - Andy Ross - Jun 17, 2003
. . . Re: 17 pdr ammo by AA - Mark van Esch - Jun 14, 2003
. . . . . . Re: 17 pdr ammo by AA - A.Hill - Jun 14, 2003
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