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| Subject: | [Chapter] Suspension: Part 2 |  |
| Date: | Jul 11, 2007 |
| From: | Hans Haase | |
Suspension: Part 2
As I mentioned earlier, Academy had a couple of big goofs in the m12 suspension that needed to be fixed, which don't really apply if using these parts elsewhere.
The other is the sponson supports, which are those odd bars that drop down off the sides of the upper hull. Many other websites I have seen speculation to what they are, everything from recoil braces to brush guards. However, my conclusion is that they are there to prevent the sponsons from sagging. I think this because they are present on both the M12 and M30's, so they can't be recoil related. And compared to a Sherman or Priest, the large open gun deck doesn't give any of the bracing needed to keep the sponsons from sagging.
Anyways, back to the problems with them. Academy just gives you the two bars that hang off the upper hull, and don't connect to anything. However, the real vehicles have a horizontal section of plate that also bolts to the front of the bogie housings. This was easy enough to make out of some strene sheet. I've sinced cleaned it up and smoothed out the rough edges on it, but here you can see the basic construction of what has to be done. I ran out of Grandt-Line bolts, so I had to use rivets in this case. Since they aren't too prominent, I can live with the change.
Also, you can see an additional line of rivets I added behind the exhaust. The M12 photos I've seen do not have the riveted lower hull like that seen on the M3 Medium tank or M7 Priest. The hulls were of welded construction, but this one line of rivets was present for some reason. I suspect it has to do with the substructure attaching the gun mount to the lower hull, which is hidden by the crew floor. I suspect there are most likely additional rivets on the lower side of the hull, but I'm not worried about that here. |
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 | [BLOG] M-12 155mm GMC - Hans Haase - Mar 7, 2007 |
| . . . [Chapter] Rounding up the Pieces - Hans Haase - Mar 7, 2007 |
| . . . [Chapter] How long is a drivetrain? - Hans Haase - Mar 8, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] How long is a drivetrain? - John Eary - Mar 9, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] How long is a drivetrain? [IMG] - Mike Shackleton - Mar 10, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Funny you should mention that..... - Hans Haase - Mar 10, 2007 |
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| . . . . . . . . . easy1 - Roy Chow - May 7, 2007 |
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| . . . [Chapter] Suspension - Part 1 - Hans Haase - May 10, 2007 |
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| . . . . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] Suspension - Part 1 - Hans Haase - May 12, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Formations Early VVSS Set F080 - Saul Garcia - May 14, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Probably the Priest set.... - Hans Haase - May 14, 2007 |
| . . . [Chapter] Crew Compartment: Part 3 - Hans Haase - May 13, 2007 |
| . . . [Chapter] Crew Compartment, finished - Hans Haase - Jun 28, 2007 |
| . . . [Chapter] Engine Compartment - Hans Haase - Jul 5, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] Engine Compartment - Christopher C. Tew - Jul 6, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] Engine Compartment - Edward Hall - Jul 8, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . It has been more fun lately - Hans Haase - Jul 8, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: It has been more fun lately - Jelle Renze Boelens - Jul 9, 2007 |
| . . . [Chapter] Upper hull attached, and some more goodies.... - Hans Haase - Jul 10, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] Upper hull attached, and some more goodies.... - Jelle Renze Boelens - Jul 11, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . I will try to mail them out tonight - Hans Haase - Jul 13, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: I will try to mail them out tonight - Jelle Renze Boelens - Jul 13, 2007 |
| . . . [Chapter] Suspension: Part 2 - Hans Haase - Jul 11, 2007 |
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| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] 155mm Gun: Part 2 - Petr Bednarik - Jul 14, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Yes, I noticed that as well - Hans Haase - Jul 15, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . All fixed - Hans Haase - Jul 17, 2007 |
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| . . . [Chapter] An extra weld seam... - Hans Haase - Aug 19, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] An extra weld seam... - Martin Dogger - Aug 19, 2007 |
| . . . [Chapter] Finished - Hans Haase - Sep 2, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] Finished - Christopher C. Tew - Sep 3, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] Finished - Tim Streeter - Sep 3, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] Finished - Matt Riesmeyer - Sep 4, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Found those, the PE set is holding me up - Hans Haase - Sep 4, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] Finished - James Wechsler - Sep 4, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Thought about it, but passed.... - Hans haase - Sep 5, 2007 |
| . . . . . . Re: [Chapter] Finished - Gaylan Morris - Sep 9, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . Tracks were DML - Hans Haase - Sep 9, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Tracks were DML - Gaylan Morris - Sep 11, 2007 |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . They aren't too bad either.... - Hans Haase - Sep 11, 2007 |
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